Not to be a post bummer.. but just wanted to make sure everyone knows you can get a 3rd gen, 4g refurb ipod from apple for 79.99 (Around 83 total) or a 3rd gen 8 gig refurb ipod for 99.00 (about 103 total). I know its refurb and isn't 'as good' as new for some people.. but its cheaper.